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In which John, who is kind of a fiscal conservative, uses the example of Hank to show how the current American health care system disincentivizes economic growth and entrepreneurship and argues that a public insurance option (even like the hodgepodge one in Montana) does not result in public bankruptcy but a more efficient and productive economy. Our community lives at www.nerdfighters.com
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isn’t Hank an employee of his own company, which should be required to provide health insurance to its employees?
This is the problem you have your government give you free education and 1200$ to go to school..why should other people pay for what is an investment in your self?
You Europeans are too hooked on government freebees..when the retirement boom comes and it will it will be a shock to get into the real world..
I went to school paid my own way and went into debt.. I also bought health insurance through the school to cover what Canada wouldn’t. Made me a better person..
No the subsidies are a very small part of the funding for new drugs. I think 4% of all drugs are from tax payer subsidized programs. ..
No cost in health care is as varied as every other business. That is a very wrong view that the only way to cut cost is to cut treatment…
Is that how Laser eye surgery got cheaper by cutting the number of eyes done?
well i cant even afford what my government pays for me, even though they (big bad government) pay me 1200$ a month for attending our free universities, so should i be denied care because im a “poor” student? or the guy who is carrying my trash away every morning should he be denied?
most people cant afford the best anyways… theres a market for private clinics for rich superpeople anyways
If your government has a list of procedures it will perform and ones it will not pay for. The newest technology, drugs and procedures that may increase your chance of survival and greatly increase your quality of life, which are available in the USA, or at a very high price may not be on that list.. therefore you are being denied some form of health care.
An insurance company may also deny you care but in a different way..You still can get it you just have to pay for it eventually.
yeah private industry assisted by taxpayer subsidies.. well, where im from noone gets denied.. yeah “Profits are maximized by cutting down on costs” and costs in healthcare is treatment
What kind of question is that, taking risks in what way?
Profit is by definition is what’s left over after expenses. Profits are maximized by cutting down on costs. private companies do it better then governments. Medicare denies more claims then private companies..
The health care industry buys patents to then market them. Private industry invented about 80% of all medical technology, drugs, and procedures around the world today. So yes they do a better jobs at bringing me innovation
do you want any buisness taking risks with your healthcare? healthcare by profit maximization doesnt sound appealing to me, i dont care about service if i just get treated when i fall sick and get saved when in an accident, i really dont care if i can get a free hot cocoa in the waiting room
You know how the health industry buys patents so noone can develop further if they have the best products out there is that moral? Do you want those protectionists in charge of your health?
No one said anything about denying the people who need help. Nice try, no and no there are no bureaucrats protected by the state running private businesses.
No the point isn’t that they don’t care. As was pointed out the problem is that there is no incentive to innovate or take risks in creating new services if there is no incentive to save money or of reward..
You can help other people you know with out the state deciding how…god…hard concepts I know…
theres nothing moral in keeping for yourself what other people need because of your own greed and pompous ego.and theres no bureaucrats running private enterprize?
cant government employed people care for the work they do,give them a break, just because a doctor or teacher isnt motivated by having more than others doesnt mean they are bad persons..
if you dont like the idea of humans taking care of one and another, theres lots of independence and freedom(from giving) in the jungle somewhere
The vast majority of people do pay taxes. Or pay through the lost oppurtunity that high taxes create.
There is nothing moral about making someone else pay for your health care if you can your self…
Run by the people? You mean bureaucrats who have very little fear of losing their job and have little to no incentive to increase efficiency and plug money leaks, because they know any mistake they make will be covered up and forgotten come election year.
and everyone pays taxes? so what, and actually its run for the people by the people because the people are the taxpayers
It isn’t free, you pay for it through taxes, call it by the real name government run..
no that makes you a Canadian… and my fellow countrymen are danish and we got free healthcare, education (all the way) etc. etc.
I am Canadian and have experienced our health care system..I want to see more market based reforms in the system, and would like to see the USA move away from greater government health care and towards the market more.
Does that by default make me a racist in your eyes as you slandered your fellow countryman…?
Expensive insurance? And after you buy that policy do you think your covered? Just wait till you need by-pass surgery or chemotherapy! They will drop you like a bad transmission!
your argument fails because it involves the ooh boo terrible terrible socialism, and a black man as president, no neocon can see through that
ulcerated colitis can be simply cured with nutrition like a healthy diet, PURPLE CABBAGE JUICE & Sangre de Drago
in fact there is a study that gave cabbage juice to inmates with this issue and solved the problem in weeks….you must drink the cabbage juice within the first minute of juicing as a certain enzyme dies of quick.
Hypocrites said: let thy food be thy medicine…humanity has simply lost their way :-[
Health is a Choice!…that one must choose!
Hank needs to get a part time job and buy some expensive insurance. Maybe a change in diet too. How many people does hank employ? His entrepreneur(ship) will take a hit broadside if he wants to grow his business. He will have to insure the emplolyees. How does that encourage growth?
I have Dystonia (dystonia is like the baby of MS and Parkinsons) and I went from working for a big company because 1.I ENJOYED my job 2. I wanted to have money saved when I retired unlike my parents. For 3 years I worked hard and got my “life plan” in order. House,Car,Furniture…Then BOOM a progressive neurological disorder that for a year they could not diagnose and cost ME OUT OF POCKET WITH INSURANCE 22K.
and thats why i <3 the nhs, you all know that its really the only way to go.
Damn, he buys a new car in pills in little over two years.
Ouch.
Save Hank, save the world.
Heroes reference, anyone?
No?
Yeah, the Case for Killing Granny showed just what the government wants for this shitty health care and chipping us like animals. Fuckin pathetic. I’m so happy I deployed 3 times as an Infantryman for our government to turn us into a Socialistic Society. We’re terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan, but since we’re the military the sheep don’t see it that way; even though it’s the definition.
i thibk the basic problem is a clear divide in values, some believe you should work for your living and things such as health care are a by product of this othres would say that health care is a right and it is only just human and compassionate to help others if they have less money than you. The problem wioth these two view pionts is that they are both very broad and do not take into to account the indvidiuals in each case, which i suppose is the problem with all policies